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Middlesex to wit.


The Information of Alexander Wallis< no role > of Norfolk Street
Strand Agent, William, Newman< no role > Servant to Captain
Philip Affleck< no role > of No 23 in Wimpole Street and
Young Gifford of Tooley Street< no role > Seaman taken
before me this 4th. day of February 1784.

Who on their Oath say and first the said Alexander Wallis< no role > says
that, on Saturday last, two Persons now present who call them-
selves Thomas Brett< no role > and Patrick Carr< no role > , came together to this Infor-
-mant's Lodging in Norfolk Street, and produced to him the two
Certificates now produced, purporting to be the Certificates of
the said Philip Affleck< no role > Esqr. That this informant asked said Brett
where he got the Certificate, who answered "From Captain Afflick"
This Informant then asked said Brett whether his Name was
James Robinson< no role > and whether He belonged to the Triumph,
who replied in the AffirmativeThat this Informant
then put the same Questions to the said Patrick Carr< no role > as he
had put to said Brett, who also replied in the Affirmative
That this Informant then told them that the Certificates were
forged and they would both be HangedWhereupon they both
replied "There are the three Men Walking in the Street on the
opposite side (Pointing to three Men then Walking there)
from whom we had the Certificates, and the Man in the White
Coat forged themAnd the said William Newman< no role > says
that he was present at this time and heard what passed from
the Months of said Brett and Carr as before stated by Mr.
Wallis and further says that the signatures of "P Affleck"
to the Certificates now produced, are not, nor is either of
them, the Hand Writing of the said Philip Affleck< no role > Esqr.
And the said Young Gifford says that He was also present, and
upon the said Brett and Carr saying that "The three Men were




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