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was indicted for
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, in the city of London. The prisoner came in the accompting-house, and introduced himself as Mr. Ray's son; he said he was come to look out some leather for his father, Mr. Ray. Mr. Ray has been a customer to our shop many years, the reason that he asigned for his father not coming himself, was, that he was dangerously ill; he said he wanted two hides of Russia, and two skins of Morrocco leather, and he took them away.
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Q. Whereabouts is the value - A. About four pound, he said he had not got the book, upon which Mr. Ray's accompt was kept, but Mr. Ray never sends the book except when he comes himself.
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Q. You acceeded, believing that he was the agent of the father - A. I did.
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Q. You, nor Mr. West, gave credit upon his own accompt - A. We did not.
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Q. Did he afterwards come to your house - A. Yes, on the 11th of February; I let him have four hides of Russia then.
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Q. Did you afterwards see the father - A. On the 11th of February Mr. Ray made his appearance; I told him I was glad to see him look so well, as I had been informed he had been extremely ill. We apprehended the defendant about a week after the 11th, and took him to the compter.
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Q. Have you ever got your skins again - A. No, we have not.
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. I am the father of the unfortunate man at the bar, I am a bookbinder.
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Q. Did you, upon the 6th of February, authorize your son to go to Mr. West for any skins in your name - A. I did not, nor knew any thing of it.
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Q. How long before the 6th of February had you seen him - A. I saw him in the street, but I did not speak to him; I have not spoke to him since Christmas upon any business. Upon the 6th of February I was as well as I am now, I did not receive any skins from my son at that time.
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Prisoner's Defence. I hope for mercy of the Jury.
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London jury, before Mr. Common Serjeant.
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