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last, 36 lb. weight of beef salted, value 12 s. </rs>
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<p>(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)</p>
<p>(The witnesses examined separate.)</p>
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<p>I am a watchman at <rs type="placeName" id="t17891209-19-crimeloc103">Bell-court, in Mincing-lane</rs>
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, between 50 and 60 yards from the prosecutor's slaughter-house door: on Monday the 2d of November, about half past eight in the evening, I was going round my beat, and I saw <rs type="persName" id="t17891209-19-person258"> <interp inst="t17891209-19-person258" type="role" value=""></interp>
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standing at the door of the slaughter-house, I asked him what he was doing there, he said his master was in the shop, and he could not go in there at present; I told him he must not stand there; I put my hand to the slaughter-house door and found it fast; he said he did not intend to go in; he turned towards Tower-street, and I went away, and I saw him return with his hand at the slaughter-house window, and I saw him pulling a piece of beef through; I stood in the same position and saw one or two pieces more come through the same place; I believe he did not see me; when he had the quantity he went to take it away, and when he was got about 4 or 5 yards, I said what have you in your apron? says he, let me go, for God's sake; it will make a deal of confusion; I told him it was not in my power to let him go, his master might; I seized him, and pulled him to the corner of Mincing-lane; I called Mr. Alexander, two or three times, and the prisoner let his apron go, and the meat fell down in the street out of his apron; then I saw Woodward coming, who must have come out of the shop; he took up the meat and ran towards Fenchurch-street; I called stop thief, and the other watchman stopped him; he was about seventy or eighty yards from me, up the lane, past the slaughter-house door; the prosecutor ordered me to take Maltby to the watch-house, and I saw Woodward at the watch house; when he was stopped I did not see him stopped.</p>
<p>Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Counsel. How long have you been watch there? - Three years.</p>
<p>He knew you? - Yes, but I did not know him.</p>
<p>You say he could not get into the slaughter-house? - He could not.</p>
<p>Mr. Knowlys. Did Woodward go in the way towards the shop with the meat? - No he ran to the next street.</p>
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<p>I am a watchman in Mincing-lane; on the 2d of November, about half past eight, my partner called to me to stop Woodward; I did so; he desired me to let him go; he said he was Mr. Alexander's <rs id="t17891209-19-deflabel104" type="occupation">servant</rs>
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, I said, this is your master's; he made me some query or something to that purpose; he said it was not his master's property, then I took him to his master's, who was not at home.</p>
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<p>I am a <rs id="t17891209-19-viclabel105" type="occupation">butcher</rs>
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in Tower-street; I have two doors to my house, one in Mincing lane, and one in Tower-street; there is a<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="178912090039"></xptr>
communication between my shop and slaughter house; I saw the prisoners taken; I saw six pieces of beef, thirty-six pounds.</p>
<p>Court to Watchman. How many pieces of beef were there? - I saw three come through the bars, but there were more? there were four carried to Guild-hall.</p>
<p>Mr. Garrow. It may happen that you may swear this to be your property; by what marks do you understand it? - There is a method we have in trimming beef for salting to go abroad, a different method from any other beef that is salted, and the larger piece is what we call a veiny piece, it was of my own putting into salt on the Saturday in the evening; it is a rule to lay it in salt on Saturday, and to resalt it on Monday; I know these pieces of beef to be my putting in salt; I will swear to the whole of them, from the mode we chop them, and trim them.</p>
<p>But knowing that you are in a considerable way of business, you do not chop and trim a great deal? - Yes, I do.</p>
<p>Do you swear these were your own chopping and trimming? - I swear that the largest piece was mine.</p>
<p>I wish we could have seen them as they were salted? - They are not here.</p>
<p>I suppose that in that part of the world, there are some butchers who salt for shipping besides yourself? - Numbers; there is one person in that neighbourhood, that now and then does a little matter; I mean to swear that I know all the pieces of beef, which were four, to be mine.</p>
<p>You talked of six just now? - That was a mistake of mine.</p>
<p>That proves that you are mortal, that proves that you are fallible? - We are all fallible sometimes.</p>
<p>Might not you forget the number of ribs, and the size of the piece, and the manner of trimming it? - There is but one mode of chopping.</p>
<p>Then there was a veiny piece, and you remember putting a veiny piece into pickle some days before? - Yes, Sir, but I do not verily believe, because I wish that to be out of the question; I swear directly to that veiny piece of beef, to be a piece of beef of my own trimming, and on the Saturday night having salted it.</p>
<p>Now will you swear another thing as directly; that is, that it had not been sold? - Yes.</p>
<p>How many people sell in your shop? - Four or five.</p>
<p>You are not always at home? - I am much at home.</p>
<p>Then these four or five people might have sold this, if it had been applied for? - Certainly.</p>
<p>Were the two prisoners in the number of those that might have sold for you? - They were.</p>
<p>And there were three other persons that had the same right? - Undoubtedly.</p>
<p>Mr. Knowlys. How long had your shop been shut up that evening? - It had not been shut up.</p>
<p>Court. Were those pieces all salted beef? - Yes.</p>
<p>Did you happen to have in your slaughter-house at that time, any salted beef that you had borrowed, that was not your own? - No.</p>
<p>Mr. Garrow. How long had these people lived with you? - Woodward six months, the other about five weeks.</p>
<p>PRISONER MALTBY's DEFENCE.</p>
<p>I leave it to my counsel.</p>
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<p>I have known Maltby some time, he bears a good character; I put great confidence in him, he lived with me; we parted on a trifling affair; he was always very honest, it was only a little inattention; I would take him again if he was discharged.</p>
<p>Mr. Warren. I have known Maltby four or five years; he always bore a good character; he was a <rs id="t17891209-19-deflabel106" type="occupation">servant</rs>
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of mine, he managed my business while I was in the country.</p>
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he always bore an excellent character.</p>
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. I have known Maltby some time, he was a servant of mine fifteen months; he was always honest.</p>
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. I have known Maltby from a youth; he always bore a good character.</p>
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. I have known Maltby ever since he came to town, ten or eleven years; he always bore a good character.</p>
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. I have known Maltby six years, he always bore a good character.</p>
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GUILTY </rs>
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Imprisoned six months </rs>
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<p>Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.</p>
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