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were indicted for
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stealing, on the
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last, 36 lb. weight of beef salted, value 12 s.
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the property of
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(The case opened by Mr. Knowlys.)
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(The witnesses examined separate.)
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, between 50 and 60 yards from the prosecutor's slaughter-house door: on Monday the 2d of November, about half past eight in the evening, I was going round my beat, and I saw
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standing at the door of the slaughter-house, I asked him what he was doing there, he said his master was in the shop, and he could not go in there at present; I told him he must not stand there; I put my hand to the slaughter-house door and found it fast; he said he did not intend to go in; he turned towards Tower-street, and I went away, and I saw him return with his hand at the slaughter-house window, and I saw him pulling a piece of beef through; I stood in the same position and saw one or two pieces more come through the same place; I believe he did not see me; when he had the quantity he went to take it away, and when he was got about 4 or 5 yards, I said what have you in your apron? says he, let me go, for God's sake; it will make a deal of confusion; I told him it was not in my power to let him go, his master might; I seized him, and pulled him to the corner of Mincing-lane; I called Mr. Alexander, two or three times, and the prisoner let his apron go, and the meat fell down in the street out of his apron; then I saw Woodward coming, who must have come out of the shop; he took up the meat and ran towards Fenchurch-street; I called stop thief, and the other watchman stopped him; he was about seventy or eighty yards from me, up the lane, past the slaughter-house door; the prosecutor ordered me to take Maltby to the watch-house, and I saw Woodward at the watch house; when he was stopped I did not see him stopped.
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Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Counsel. How long have you been watch there? - Three years.
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He knew you? - Yes, but I did not know him.
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You say he could not get into the slaughter-house? - He could not.
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Mr. Knowlys. Did Woodward go in the way towards the shop with the meat? - No he ran to the next street.
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I am a watchman in Mincing-lane; on the 2d of November, about half past eight, my partner called to me to stop Woodward; I did so; he desired me to let him go; he said he was Mr. Alexander's
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, I said, this is your master's; he made me some query or something to that purpose; he said it was not his master's property, then I took him to his master's, who was not at home.
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in Tower-street; I have two doors to my house, one in Mincing lane, and one in Tower-street; there is a
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communication between my shop and slaughter house; I saw the prisoners taken; I saw six pieces of beef, thirty-six pounds.
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Court to Watchman. How many pieces of beef were there? - I saw three come through the bars, but there were more? there were four carried to Guild-hall.
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Mr. Garrow. It may happen that you may swear this to be your property; by what marks do you understand it? - There is a method we have in trimming beef for salting to go abroad, a different method from any other beef that is salted, and the larger piece is what we call a veiny piece, it was of my own putting into salt on the Saturday in the evening; it is a rule to lay it in salt on Saturday, and to resalt it on Monday; I know these pieces of beef to be my putting in salt; I will swear to the whole of them, from the mode we chop them, and trim them.
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But knowing that you are in a considerable way of business, you do not chop and trim a great deal? - Yes, I do.
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Do you swear these were your own chopping and trimming? - I swear that the largest piece was mine.
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I wish we could have seen them as they were salted? - They are not here.
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I suppose that in that part of the world, there are some butchers who salt for shipping besides yourself? - Numbers; there is one person in that neighbourhood, that now and then does a little matter; I mean to swear that I know all the pieces of beef, which were four, to be mine.
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You talked of six just now? - That was a mistake of mine.
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That proves that you are mortal, that proves that you are fallible? - We are all fallible sometimes.
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Might not you forget the number of ribs, and the size of the piece, and the manner of trimming it? - There is but one mode of chopping.
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Then there was a veiny piece, and you remember putting a veiny piece into pickle some days before? - Yes, Sir, but I do not verily believe, because I wish that to be out of the question; I swear directly to that veiny piece of beef, to be a piece of beef of my own trimming, and on the Saturday night having salted it.
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Now will you swear another thing as directly; that is, that it had not been sold? - Yes.
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How many people sell in your shop? - Four or five.
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You are not always at home? - I am much at home.
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Then these four or five people might have sold this, if it had been applied for? - Certainly.
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Were the two prisoners in the number of those that might have sold for you? - They were.
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And there were three other persons that had the same right? - Undoubtedly.
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Mr. Knowlys. How long had your shop been shut up that evening? - It had not been shut up.
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Court. Were those pieces all salted beef? - Yes.
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Did you happen to have in your slaughter-house at that time, any salted beef that you had borrowed, that was not your own? - No.
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Mr. Garrow. How long had these people lived with you? - Woodward six months, the other about five weeks.
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I leave it to my counsel.
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I have known Maltby some time, he bears a good character; I put great confidence in him, he lived with me; we parted on a trifling affair; he was always very honest, it was only a little inattention; I would take him again if he was discharged.
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Mr. Warren. I have known Maltby four or five years; he always bore a good character; he was a
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of mine, he managed my business while I was in the country.
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I live at Horn-Church, in Essex; I came to town to give Woodward a character;
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. I have known Maltby from a youth; he always bore a good character.
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Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.
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