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Old Bailey Proceedings: Accounts of Criminal Trials

4th December 1811

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1. THOMAS LINTON ROGERS, alias JOHN LINTON ROGERS proceedingsdefend , and CHARLOTTE ATHERTON, alias ROGERS, proceedingsdefend were indicted for that they about the hour of eight at night, on the 12th of August ; being in the dwelling-house of Joseph Bird proceedingsvictim , did steal therein a watch, value 50 l. three snuff boxes, value 10 l. a silver box, value 1 l. a reading glass, value 1 l. a pair of spectacles and case, value 1 l. a silver medal, value 30 s. a bronze medal, value 5 s. a telescope, value 10 s. a glass, value 2 s. a pair of pistols, value 2 l. three silver pencil cases, value 3 s. a memorandum case, value 6 d. a sticking plaster box, value 1 s. a piece of foreign silver coin, value 6 s. six shirts, value 4 l. and two pieces of muslin handkerchiefs, value 4 l. the property of Joseph Bird, and that they did afterwards feloniously break the said house to get out of it .

And ANOTHER COUNT for stealing the said goods and breaking into the said house.

JOSEPH BIRD < no role > . I reside in St. James's place, in St. James's parish.

Q. In the course of this last summer you and your family left your house to go into the country - A. I did, about the beginning of August, I left a maid servant to keep the house; I returned to town for two or three days at the latter end of August: I went into the country again in the course of three or four days. I returned again to town about the 3d of October.

Q. Did you examine in what state your drawers were - A. I saw them open, and the articles that were in them were strewn about the room. I missed a many articles.

Q. Had you lost a watch - A. I had, and a seal.

COURT. What was the value of the watch - A. At At least fifty pound; I lost four snuff boxes, a silver box; in short all the things in the indictment of the value of above an hundred pounds.

Q. Besides these things in the indictment did you lose a quantity of silver coin - A. I did.

Q. Where had these things been deposited - A. The whole of the articles were left in a drawer in my library.

A. When had you last seen that bureau - A. In the beginning of September it was safe, it had not then been wrenched open.

Q. Did you, sir, before the last sessions, receive that part of your property - A. I did, all the things in this indictment, they were brought back one evening about nine o'clock, they were delivered to Thomas Sanders < no role > , my servant.

Q. These are the things, the watch, and all the articles - A. Yes. They are all my property.

THOMAS SANDERS < no role > . I am a servant to Mr. Bird.

Q. How did this box come into your hands - A. It came in a paper, sealed up with different seals, it was delivered to me by a short man; a person knocked at the door, and gave me the box so wrapped up in paper, and a letter with it.

Q. Who was it - A. I cannot say indeed. It was just before I went to the grand jury last sessions.

Q. A person gave it to you with a letter to give to your master - A. Yes, and went away, and I gave it to my master, with all the contents.

MARY STEVENS < no role > . Q. You were left in the care of Mr. Bird's house while the family was in the country - A. I was.

Q. Before the family went out of town had you known the female prisoner at the bar, Charlotte Atherton < no role > , otherwise Rogers - A. Yes, she came before to see the cook, and came there to see me, and she came at times to sleep with me.

COURT. How often - A. I cannot say.

Mr. Gurney. Upon any of these occasions that she visited you in the absence of the family, did he come with her as her husband - A. Yes.

Q. Did he ever sleep in the house - A. Yes, about three times.

Q. Was she with you very frequently - A. Yes.

Q. Was he there very frequently - A. Not so often as her, but he was there frequently.

Q. When did you quit the house - A. On Saturday the 28th of September, and the cook came up to take my place.

Q. At the time that you quitted the house you had no suspicion that the house had been robbed - A. Not the least.

Mr Alley. You always understood them to be man and wife - A. Yes.

ANN WILLMORE < no role > . My husband lived in St. George's Fields at that time.

Q. What business did he carry on - A. A chandler's shop.

Q. Had you, in the month of August, September, and October, been acquainted with the prisoners at the bar - A. I had known them longer than that time.

Q. In the month of September did either of them bring any articles to your house - A. Yes, the male prisoner, Linton Rogers did.

Q. Was she with him when he brought them - A. No, not the first time he brought them; I was not at home when he left three shirts, he left no articles of jewellery at that time. He came a second time the same evening, he had the things in his pocket at that time; I saw Charlotte Rogers < no role > first, she came and asked me if I had seen Rogers; I told her I had not; she asked me to go with her, for she was in great fear of his being detected in having taken things from Mr. Bird's house; I went with her up to the Haymarket.

Q. Did you find him - A. Yes; he was then standing in an oyster-shop; Charlotte went across to him, leaving me on the opposite side; after speaking to him she told me that all was right; then I went across with her to him, and I said to him that his wife had been fearful of his being detected, and he blamed her for being foolish; he had then a tortoise shell snuff box, with a miniature picture within. That is the box. He had some small silver medals in his hands. I walked with her, she went to Mr. Miller's in Westminster-road; she sold the medals to him. I did not go in with her.

Q. Did Rogers tell you where he got these things - A. Yes, at Mr. Bird's; she was bye and heard him.

Q. Did you ask her how that could be done while the servant was in the house - A. Yes, I did ask her; she said that she went to see the maid-servant, and that he got in the back way; he knew the way of the house.

Q. Did he hear this - A. Yes, he was bye and heard it.

Q. You all went together to your house - A. Yes; but before that she pledged the small lip-salve box for two shillings. Rogers had left a bundle at my house while his wife and I were out. When I went home I saw the bundle, I opened it for curiosity; there was a muslin handkerchief, and two or three shirts; he had the snuff box in his pocket at that time, and went away with it. He produced a large silver medal; this is it, my husband weighed it, and it weighed six ounces. I saw no more medals than that, and that one snuff-box.

Q. Did you see any watch - A. Yes; not that night. I saw the watch I believe on the Thursday after, the 26th of September; Mr. Rogers pulled, it out of his pocket.

Q. Does that look like the watch - A. It was a deeply engraved case. I can almost be positive to that being the watch, and tied with a purple ribbon, as this is; he said he had taken that from Mr. Bird's. Rogers, on Friday the 27th, called again at my house, he said, that he meaned to put the property back. On Sunday the 29th of September I saw him again.

Q. Was that the day that he quarrelled with you - A. Yes; he came in the morning and fetched away the snuff-box, the medal, and the watch that he had left with me. On the Sunday evening he came drunk and quarrelled with a person in the house; he did not quarrel with us; Mrs. Baines, a neighbour came in; she picked up the case of a watch, Mrs. Rogers took it away from Mrs. Baines and gave it to her husband; he took the watch out of his pocket, clapped it on the watch, and put it in his pocket.

Q. Is that the same watch that you have been speaking of - A. Yes.

Mr. Alley. I suppose as an honest woman you went and gave an account of it - A. No, I did not.

EDWARD WILLMORE < no role > . Q. In September last you lived in St. George's Fields, we understand - A. Yes.

Q. Do you remember towards the close of that month the prisoner Rogers and his wife coming to your house - A. Yes. I recollect his coming to my house on the 23d.

Q. Was that the same evening that your wife went out with Mrs. Rogers in search of him - A. Yes, it was.

Q. He having called upon you, did he afterwards come back with his wife, and your wife - A. He did. He brought a bundle before he came with my wife, and when he came with his wife and my wife he shewed me a large medal.

Q. Look at that, is that it - A. Yes, it is; I weighed it, it weighed six ounces and better. He produced a snuff-box.

Q. Look at that snuff-box - A. I am not quite so positive to this as the medal; it looks like this.

Q. Is that the watch - A. E. B There was that cypher at the back. That is the watch.

Q. Were these things left with you or with your wife for some days - A. They were left with me.

COURT. You saw them, and have to doubt they are the same - A. No.

Mr. Gurney. Did he tell you from whence he got them - A. Yes, from Mr. Bird's.

Mr. Alley. These were found in your possession - A. No.

Q. Was it not brought by you to Bow-street - A. It was not. I went to Bow-street and laid the information.

Q. You went to Bow-street to get the reward - A. No; I went for pure honesty.

Q. How soon after. We shall try your honesty - A. I went on the Monday after.

Q. Did not a lodger of your house go to Union Hall - A. No; a person in my house went, and the complaint that that person made was an assault.

ANN BAINES < no role > . Q. I believe you live in St. George's Fields - A. Yes; close to where Mr. Willmore lives.

Q. On the evening of Sunday the 29th of September did you hear any disturbance in Mr. Willmore's house - A. Yes, in consequence of that I went in, I found the prisoner Rogers there, and his wife; I found in the parlour the case of a watch on the floor. He had been quarrelling before I picked it up.

Q. Was it a gold case - A. I cannot say whether it was gold or metal, it shined very much. It was engraved, I believe.

Q. Is that it - A. I believe it was something similar to that. I said, I have found the case of a watch on the floor, Mrs. Rogers said it was her husband's; I gave it her; she said it was nothing but metal; she gave it to her husband; he took his watch out; he put the case on the watch, and put it into his pocket.

MR. MILLER. I am a silversmith and salesman, No. 1, Coates-row near Westminster bridge.

Q. Did you purchase any silver medals in September last - A. Yes, I did. I suppose it was about a week before this robbery came out, I think so.

Q. Who sold them you - A. Mrs. Rogers, the woman at the bar, sold them me. It was in the evening, about seven o'clock. I cannot say exactly the hour.

Q. What number of them were they - A. Thirty three coins.

Prosecutor. I lost such coins as these, and more in number similar to them. I cannot speak particularly to them.

Thomas Linton Rogers < no role > left his defence to his counsel.

Charlotte Rogers < no role > was not put on her defence.

THOMAS LINTON ROGERS < no role > - GUILTY - DEATH , aged 22,

Of stealing in the dwelling-house, not of breaking out, nor of breaking into the dwelling-house.

CHARLOTTE ROGERS < no role > - NOT GUILTY .

[ The prisoner was recommended to mercy by the prosecutor on account that he believed the prisoner's father sent the property back .]

First Middlesex Jury, before Mr. justice Grose.




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