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Old Bailey Proceedings: Accounts of Criminal Trials

11th November 1794

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571. WILLIAM GOOD proceedingsdefend was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 28th of September , six yards of carpetting, value 14s. and eighteen yards of canvas, value 9s. the goods of William Leader proceedingsvictim .

The cafe opened by Mr. Const.

JOHN HARRINGTON < no role > sworn.

I am a foreman to Mr. Leader, he is a coach-maker , in Liquor Pond-street; I know the prisoner at the bar very well, he was employed as a watchman ; I was sent for to the office, in Hatton-garden, on the 9th or 10th of September.

Q. I want you now to confine your attention to the carpetting and canvas. - I see them and examined them at the police office, Hatton-garden, on the 9th or 10th of September.

Q. Who did you find at the police office? - I found Mr. Good, the prisoner. Some things were produced, I examined them all over, and I really believe them to be the property of Mr. Leader.

Q. Do you know where they were taken from? - I cannot say that.

Q. Are these things present? - They are.

Mr. Knowlys. You are foreman to Mr. Leader. Can you say that he has lost carpetting or canvas? - Yes.

Q. Of that pattern? - Yes, I can say that, but I cannot swear to the articles for want of the mark.

Q. How long ago do you think these things have been lost? - Some of them between two and three years ago.

Q. < no role > As to this carpetting and this canvas, when do you apprehend that may be lost, if it was ever lost at all? - We cannot say to the time when it was lost, because we have a great deal in at a time.

Q. Therefore you cannot say when this was lost at all? - I cannot notice it particularly, we have such a quantity, and such a number of hands.

Q. Till this was found you did not even miss these things? - No, we have frequently missed things, but never that in particular.

ROBERT LUCAS < no role > sworn.

Q. You are now, I believe, a partner with Mr. Leader? - Yes, I am.

Q. You remember the prisoner Good being taken into custody on some suspicion? - Yes, I do.

Q. Will you tell us what past at your house that you was privy to? When did you commence partner with Mr. Leader? - The 2d of November 1793; the robbery was committed in September.

Q. Before the time you was in partnership? - Yes, some part of it.

Q. The carpet and canvas was stole before the time you was in the partnership? - It was.

Q. What led you first to suspect the prisoner? - From missing sundry articles we believed the prisoner not to be honest, and going to search his premises we found some property in his house; we suspected the prisoner about three days before we searched his house.

Court. When did you search his house? - On the 9th of September.

Mr. Const What did you find there? - Several articles, which will be produced.

Q. Did you find there any carpetting or canvas? - No, they were found at the pawnbroker's.

Q. What led you to the pawnbroker's? - Some duplicates which were taken out of the prisoner's pocket.

Q. Then on searching the prisoner you found some duplicates? - Yes.

Q. < no role > Going there did you find any canvas or carpetting that answered to that description on the duplicates? - Yes.

Q. Were these things known by you when you see them? - We believed them to be Mr. Leader's property.

Q. Of course the things were produced and carried to the office? - Yes.

Q. You attended at the office? - Yes, I did.

Q. What pawnbroker's did you find this at? - I don't recollect.

Mr. Knowlys. Is Mr. Leader's son in the partnership? - No, he is not.

WILLIAM ROBERTS < no role > sworn.

I produce some carpetting; I live at No. 38, Baldwin's-gardens; I am a pawnbroker there.

Q. Is that the carpetting that you produced at Hatton-garden? - Yes.

Q. Where had you it from? - I took it in of the prisoner, he pawned it with me, I knew him, I had it of him on the 20th of July 1793; this is the duplicate I wrote for the carpet at the time I took it in. When they came to enquire, they produced the fellow duplicate of that, which I gave to the prisoner; I have had the things in my possession ever since.

Mr. Knowlys. This was the 20th of July, last year? - Yes, it was.

Q. How many yards are there in that piece of carpetting? - Better than four yards.

Q. How long he had it by him you don't know? - No, I do not.

Lucas. This is a pattern which we use a great deal of.

Q. Is that the sort of carpetting of which you missed any? - We missed a great deal.

Mr. Knowlys. At that particular time did you miss it? - I cannot say, having such great quantities.

Q. Will you undertake to swear that that ever was in Mr. Leader's possession? - I, don't know that positively; we cut a great deal of that pattern.

Q. If you had seen it in my house, you would not have suspected it to have been Mr. Leader's at all? - I don't know any thing about that. Of course you being a gentleman, I should suppose that you came by it honestly.

Q. There is no mark on it? - None at all.

Q. For ought you know, it might be lost in the year 1791, if it ever was in Mr. Leader's possession? - I don't think we used that pattern so long as that.

JAMES LOWE < no role > sworn.

I live in Clerkenwell-green, I am a pawnbroker.

Q. Where did you get that canvas? - It was pledged at our house the 14th of of September 1792.

Q. I don't know whether you can speak to the prisoner? - No, it is impossible for me do that.

Not GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. Baron HOTHAM.




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