Old Bailey Proceedings:
Old Bailey Proceedings: Accounts of Criminal Trials

11th October 1721

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William Palmer proceedingsdefend , of St. Olave in Southwark , was indicted for the Murder of John Miller proceedingsvictim , by giving him one Mortal Wound with a Boat-Hook near the Left Hip, of the Length of One Inch and the Depth of One Inch, on the 22nd of September last; of which he languished till the 5th of this Instant October , and then died , in the Parish of St. Martin Vintrey . He was a second time indicted on the Coroner's Inquest for Manslaughter. Richard Martin < no role > deposed, that he saw the Prisoner run his Hitcher against the Deceased upon the Thames; that the Deceased came and asked him where he lived and shewed him that he was stabb'd. Matthew Bradford < no role > deposed, that he went with the Deceased to Pepper-Alley to seek after the Prisoner, that the Deceased shewed him his Wound, and the Prisoner said, he wisht he had struck his Staff in his Heart's Blood; and that the Deceased ran against his Boat. Ann Hopkins < no role > deposed, that on the 22d of September last the Deceased (her Kinsman) came to her House, said he was wounded, and told her that as he was going through Bridge, with the Tide, the Prisoner going Cross to come through against the Tide, their Boat-Heads met: that he told the Prisoner he had staved his (the Deceased's) Boat, and took hold of the Head of the Prisoner's to see the Number; but he got clear and stabb'd him. That she had him to a Surgeon; that the Deceased in his Agony, Cry'd, this Rogue has Murder'd me. That he said he fear'd it would kill him, and desired me to prosecute the Prisoner, or he thought he could not Rest. That when she apprehended the Prisoner, he said he did it in his own Defence, for the Deceased struck him with his Fist and Scull first, and that she asking him why he wisht his Staff in his Heart's Blood; he answered, that it was in his Passion: and when she told him that he was Dying; he said, Let him Die and be D - nd, so he die quietly. That the Deceased declared on his Death-Bed before receiving the Sacrament, that he was in Bodily Health, had no Pains or Aches about him before the Prisoner gave him that Wound; and that he did not strike the Prisoner with his Scull, but did with his Fist. Mrs. Miller confirmed the former Evidence, and added, that she askt her Husband if he forgave the Prisoner; who answered, that in one respect he did; but Blood for Blood. The Prisoner in his Defence, said, that as he was Rowing cross from Billinsgate to hale through Bridge the Deceased fell a Broad-side of him, took hold of his Boat in the Eddy, carried him down a great way, call'd him Son of a Bitch, struck him with his Fist, afterward with his Scull and hurt his Arm; that the Deceased followed him to Pepper Alley, and said he would be satisfied with fighting him. William Wheatley < no role > deposed, that he set the Prisoner through Bridge, who shewed him his Arm; that the Skin was rased and a Bruise, which looks as fresh done by a stroak with a Scull or Staff. The Surgeon deposed, that he was sent for by the Prosecutor to look after the Deceased, that the Wound was not above Half an Inch deep, that he did not look upon it to be Mortal without an ill State of Body, that he laid it open lower, and there appeared to him no Danger, no Mortification: that he opened him after his Decease, and found every thing within the Abdomen well; but when he came to the Thorax there was a great deal of Matter spun out. about 5 Pints, which he believed was the Cause of his Death; though not occasion'd by the Wound, neither could he tell from what Cause.

Matthew Goodby < no role > deposed, that he was at Pepper-Alley when the Prisoner and the Deceased came thither; that the Deceased said to the Prisoner, see what you have done, pulling up his Shirt; and the Prisoner reply'd, see what you have done, shewing his Arm. John Hicks < no role > deposed, that he heard the Deceased say that he struck the Prisoner on the Check with his Hand; that he saw the Prisoner's Arm bloody, as just done, and believed that it could not be done by setting his Boat through. John Eales < no role > confirmed the former Evidence, and added, that the Deceased challenged the Prisoner ashore to fight him for half a Crown. Stephen Lee < no role > deposed the same. The Jury considering the whole matter, found him Guilty of Manslaughter . Burnt in the Hand .




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