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Old Bailey Proceedings: Accounts of Criminal Trials

25th February 1784

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318. HANNAH SNOW otherwise FRANKLIN proceedingsdefend This name instance is in set 1374. This set is in the group(s): GarrowsClients . was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 10th day of February , in the dwelling house of Martha Sanders proceedingsvictim , widow , one pair of linen sheets, value 10 s. one linen handkerchief, value 1 s. eight guineas, value 8 l. 8 s. the property of the said Martha, and one promisory note commonly called a bank note, value 10 l. one other banknote, value 10 l. the said notes being the property of the said Martha, and the several sums of 10 l. and 10 l. respectively due and payable thereon, being then due and unsatisfied to the said Martha, against the form of the statute .

The Witnesses examined apart at the request of the Prisoner.

MARTHA SANDERS < no role > sworn.

Examined by Mr. Keys, Council for the Prosecution.

I live in Mortimer-street, Cavendish-square , the prisoner was my servant , she left me the 3d of February, after she had left my service, I missed on the 10th of February some money and bank notes.

How much money did you miss? - Two ten pound bank notes, and eight guineas in money, they were kept in my chest in the front parlour, I kept my bank notes in this box, (which I kept in my chest,) and in that box I kept my money, I took up the prisoner, I went to Litchfield-street office.

Court. When was the prisoner taken up? - The 10th of February.

Was there any thing found upon her? - Nothing at all.

Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Council. The prisoner left your service on the 3d of February? - Yes.

You did not miss any thing till the 10th? - No.

Who had been in your service from the 2d to the 10th? - The servant that I have now.

So this was in a chest, the key of which you kept? - Kept it! No, Sir, it was in my drawers, and the key was left in my drawers, and she went and opened the drawers.

No, do not tell us what she did, you do not know any thing of that; can you venture to swear that from the 3d to the 10th, you never left the key of those drawers in the drawers, in the reach of your present servant? - The key was in the drawers.

Court. The key of your chest was kept in your drawers? - Yes.

Where was the key of the drawers kept? - In the drawers, I locked the front parlour, and left the key in the back parlour, till I missed the money.

WILLIAM BLACKETER < no role > sworn.

Mr. Keys. I believe you was employed on this occasion, to serve a warrant on the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, Mrs. Sanders came to the office to inform the people that she was robbed, that was the 10th of February, when she mentioned the name of the prisoner, Hannah Snow < no role > This name instance is in set 1374. This set is in the group(s): GarrowsClients . , I saw the prisoner at the office a day or two before.

What was she doing at the office? - She lodged a complaint against a man that lived with her, and said he had robbed her, and I told Mrs Sanders < no role > I knew the woman, and I knew where she lived; I went and took her up, and told her, she had robbed her mistress, she said, she had not, I searched her, and found nothing on her, but two or three shillings, I searched her lodgings and found a guinea and a half there, I found no bank notes there.

Did you find any thing that was claimed by Mrs. Sanders? - Nothing at all, so she told me, that she had ten pounds in her brother's hands, and she would give me that.

Mr. Garrow. What did you say to her before she told you that? - I told her, she had better tell where the notes were.

Then do not tell us any thing about it.

Court. Did you know any thing more, except what the prisoner and her brother told you? - No.

Mr. Keys. Did you go back to the prosecutor's house with the prisoner? - Yes.

Mr. Garrow. What if he did after this?

HENRY SNOW < no role > sworn.

Did you receive any money from the prisoner at the bar? - Yes, a fortnight last Tuesday or Wednesday, I believe, I am not sure which.

Court. Fix the time as near as you can? - I believe it was last Wednesday se'en-night.

Do you know when the young woman was taken up? - It was on the 10th.

Was it before or after that, that you received the money of her? - The Wednesday before, the money was fifteen guineas.

Where is the money now? - The constable has it.

It was given by you, I believe, to the constable, in the presence of the prisoner? - Yes.

Mr. Garrow. My Lord, if this was after what the constable has told us, your Lordship will not hear it.

When you gave this money to the constable, who was by at the time? - My wife and the prisoner were by.

Mr. Keys. The prisoner heard you say -

Mr. Garrow. No, no, do not let us hear any thing about what the prisoner heard him say.

Court. Let him give an account.

Mr. Keys. Give the Court a full account of what passed between the prisoner and you when she gave you the fifteen guineas? - The constable came and demanded it of me, the prisoner had given it me before.

At that time, what passed between you and her? - She informed me that she was going to be married, and she had got some money that she would put in my care, which was fifteen guineas.

Where did she get it, did she tell you? - No.

Did you ask her whether she had got any more? - No.

What more passed between you and her at the time she gave you the money? - There was nothing that I remember.

Nor nothing more passed between you and her at any time before she was taken up? - No; she had a relation that died in the country, which had a will lodged in Doctor's Commons, in the first place, I went down to see her, I went down to Chatham, I believe it is two years and a half ago, and John Franklin < no role > had some relations that had used him very ill; my sister, the prisoner at the bar, was afraid of losing some of her property, and she gave me twenty pounds, four shillings, and sixpence, which I brought away to London, and she had a misfortune by this laid John Franklin < no role > , and he was coming up to town to be married to the prisoner, but before that he left six guineas in the prisoner's possession; that is about two years and a half ago.

Court. How did she come by these fifteen guineas? - Here is the will, which is proof.

Mr. Garrow. He means to tell you, that this woman has had a child by Franklin.

DORCAS TUTHILL < no role > sworn.

I received that bundle from one Browning, he brought it to me, his sister lodges with me, her name is Straffer.

Mr. Keys. For what purpose was it brought to you?

Mr. Garrow. I must object to that.

Court You cannot ask that.

Mr. Keys. I will tell your Lordship.

Mr. Garrow. Now the evidence is to be given by Mr. Keys himself, to which I object.

Court. Who did you give it to? - I gave it to Susannah Straffer < no role > .

Was that bundle opened in your presence? - Yes.

What did it contain? - It contained a callico sheet, and a half of one, and a piece, and this handkerchief, and a waistcoat.

Do you know them to be the same that you received? - Yes.

Court. You gave that bundle to Susannah Straffer < no role > ? - Yes.

How did it come into your hands again? - The constable gave it to me, he had it when he was at the justice's.

How long after you had given it to Straffer, was it before you saw it again? - Immediately, it was never out of my custody.

Are the things that are in it now, the same that were in it then? - Yes, I was with it at the justice's; it was out of my sight when the constable had it; I saw it given to Blacketer.

Blacketer. I have had it from that time to this.

When you gave that to Blacketer it contained the same things that it had when Browning gave it to you? - Yes.

Mr. Garrow to Mrs. Tuthill. I believe you have known the prisoner some time? - She lodged at my house.

There is some little money matter to be settled between you? - She lent me some money about two years ago.

Which is still unpaid? - Yes.

I believe she took the name of Franklin by your advice? - No.

She consulted you about it? - No.

Mr. Garrow to Snow. Did you know John Franklin < no role > ? - Yes.

He is dead? - Yes.

Did he make any will? - He did, I have seen the probate of it.

Do you know that she received any money, as the produce of the effects of Franklin from any body? - Yes, upwards of forty or fifty pounds.

When did Franklin die? - Two years and a half ago, about September.

Your sister had been in service at that time? - Yes, she was a year at this Mrs. Tuthill's house; I expected she had more money than that by her considerably.

Court to Snow. How much in fact do you know, of your own knowledge, the prisoner was ever possessed of? - She had forty pounds and upwards when she came away from Chatham, I know that myself, I sold all the things off myself, and I know she received the money; besides she received interest money at the Bank, and there is a house let for four guineas a year, and here is her wages still increasing, which she must in the whole have upwards of sixty pounds.

Court to Prosecutor. How long did this young woman live with you? - Four months?

At what wages? - Seven pounds a year.

Did you pay her her wages? - Yes, I paid her three months, and then a month that she gave me warning.

Court to Snow. This forty pounds that you speak of is two years ago? - Yes.

Perhaps you know the spending of that money as well as the taking of it? - I cannot tell what became of it.

Where has she lived from that time to this? - She was a twelve month with Mrs. Tuthill, in town all the time.

How long was it after she received the forty pounds, that she came to London? - In the course of three or four days, she had then her own private property of twenty pounds, or upwards; she remained at this Mrs. Tuthill's house, where I was a lodger, I believe she lodged there near a twelvemonth; I do not suppose it cost her one shilling a week, I found her every thing myself, except bread and lodging, then you may judge; two shillings a week at most.

NOT GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.




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