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was indicted for
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that he, together with forty other persons and more, did, unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assemble on the
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8th of June
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, to the disturbance of the publick peace, and did begin to demolish and pull down the dwelling-house of
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, against the form of the statute, &c.
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I am a sawyer. I live in North-street, behind Mr. Whitefield's Tabernacle in Tottenham-court-road.
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Do you know Mr. Boggis's house? - Yes. I was coming up the street at the back of it a little after six in the evening; I saw the prisoner there; there were about twenty or thirty people there; some were carrying boards out of Boggis's house. I saw the prisoner take up some boards which appeared to me to be wainscoting and doors, but I did not take particular notice of them. I said, O Stephen, I am sorry to see you there! he replied d - n something, but I do not recollect what he said more.
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Jury. Did you know the prisoner before? - Yes.
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How long have you known him? - I have known him two or three years; I never knew the man do any thing wrong in my life.
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Where did he carry the things to? - Up the court. I did not see him do any thing with them, for I did not stay two minutes, to the best of my knowledge.
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Was there any fire opposite the court? - There were two or three fires I believe in Holbourn, pretty nearly opposite to Turnstile, but I did not go into Holbourn.
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Cross Examination.
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You cannot tell what the prisoner had in his hand? - No, I saw him take up some boards.
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Do not you know where they came from? - No.
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You made a discovery of this? - No, another man and I were speaking of it in a public-house.
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What is his name? - He is outside the door.
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Is he an acquaintance of your's? - Yes, a sawyer.
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How long was it after this before the prisoner was taken up? - I do not know.
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Was it Conway you was in company with? - Yes.
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Was he at Mr. Boggis's house? - I do not know, he was not at work with me at that time.
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Court. You did not see them carry any thing out of Mr. Boggis's house? - No, I did not.
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Counsel for the Prisoner. I understood you to say you could not tell what it was they took up, whether it was boards or wainscoting? - I do not know whether it was boards or wainscoting.
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You just knew they were wood? - Yes.
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Counsel for the Crown. You think they were wainscoting or doors, did they look like wainscoting? - Yes.
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Counsel for the Prisoner. You did not see any one bring them out of the house? - No.
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I am a sawyer.
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Do you know Mr. Boggis's house? - Yes.
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Was you at Mr. Boggis's house or near it
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at the time the mob was there? - I was in Holbourn, near Little Turnstile.
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How far is that from Little Turnstile? - Mr. Boggis's house is in New Turnstile. I was in Holbourn, facing the court.
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Was there any fire at that time in Holbourn? - Yes, just facing the court.
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Did you see any one there whom you took notice of? - Yes, only one, that was
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Stephen Titcombe
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. I had known him four or five years before. I was shopmate with him about four years ago.
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What did you see him doing? - I saw him bring some furniture out and throw it on the fire.
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What was it? - It seemed to me to be boards and doors; he brought it out of the court.
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How near was you to the prisoner when he came by you? - I was on the other side of the street.
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You can tell what sort of wood he brought? - Yes, it seemed to me to be wainscoting and doors. It was broke.
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Was it painted? - I do not know.
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Who gave the first information against the prisoner? - I do not know.
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You are sure it was either a door or wainscoting that you saw him have? - Yes.
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What did he do with it? - He threw it on the fire.
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How often? - Two or three times.
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You say you are a sawyer? - Yes.
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Do you know furniture from wainscoting and doors? You said first he threw furniture on the fire. Then you was asked what it was; you said boards and doors? - That is what I call furniture.
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Do you call boards furniture? - Yes.
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And you call furniture boards perhaps? - It is furniture when it is worked up.
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When did you first complain against the prisoner for having done what you now charge him with? - I do not know that I am the first who complained.
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When did you first complain of him? - Five or six days before the time he was before the justice. I was in company with a man; he said to me, I saw such a man at the fire, meaning the prisoner; I said so did I. That man had the prisoner taken up.
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What was that man's name? -
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John Booth
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; he is a soldier in the militia.
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How long was it after the reward was published, before you talked of taking him up? - I do not know any thing about it.
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Counsel for the Crown. Had you heard of the reward at the time? - I heard of the reward but I am not certain whether it was before or after.
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Jury. You understood you was to have part of it? - No.
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Counsel. You do not mean to take any part of the reward? - No.
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EDMUND BOGGIS
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I kept an house in New Turnstile; it was pulled down on the 7th of June between six and seven o'clock in the afternoon.
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In what condition was your house when it was attacked? - Very tenantable. I was very comfortable.
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In what condition was it when the mob left it? - The glass was broke to pieces and the wood-work of the dining room broke out; the wainscoting was almost all demolished.
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Do you know when the prisoner was taken up? - I cannot remember the time.
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Who gave you the first information against him? - I think it was Mr. Young; the examination was over at Hick's hall before I knew it. I think Mr. Young came in after he had been at Hick's hall, and told me; and the other came in afterwards.
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Were they all together? - Yes.
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Cross Examination.
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Both the witnesses, Young and Conway, came to your house together? - Yes.
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You cannot say which spoke to you? - Mr.
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I believe.
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Was an indictment found then? - Yes.
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That was after the sessions began at Hick's-hall? - Yes.
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You cannot speak to the time the wainscoting in the dining-room was destroyed? - No. I was frightened, and as soon as they came about the house I left it. I got the best of my furniture cut; what I left behind was entirely destroyed.
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To Conway. About what time was it you saw the prisoner there? - Between six and seven o'clock.
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How long did you stay there? - Not above ten or twelve minutes.
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To Young. Were you and Conway together at the time of the mob's doing the mischief? - No.
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What time was you there? - Between six and seven o'clock.
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When you went with Conway to give evidence before the grand jury on this indictment do you know whether you had heard of the king's proclamation offering a reward to any person who made a discovery? - Yes; but I had no such motive.
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Did you know that you were intitled to the reward? - No; I denied it.
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Do you now disclaim all reward? - I do, if there were ten thousand pounds.
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Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.
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I am a sawyer, I have known Young about two years.
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Is he a man of credit, of reputation, who ought to be believed upon his oath? - He is a man who bears a very indifferent character in the trade.
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Court. Do you think him a man to be believed upon his oath? - I cannot tell that.
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Counsel for the Prisoner. Do you think he is a man who ought to be believed on his oath? - I do not think he ought.
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How long have you known Titcombe? About three years, he bears a very good character; he is a hard working honest man.
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Cross Examination.
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Young and you have quarrelled have not you? - No; we never quarelled.
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Young. I give him leave to speak every thing against me he knows.
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Kent. He came to work with me in my pit; he wanted to get the man out of his work, and wanted me to prove the man charged more work than was done, and master sent for me, I knew nothing about it.
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Who was by? - Mr. Wilson.
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To Young. Is that true? - He said the man charged too much, and was as willing to get him out as myself. I can bring fifty witnesses to speak to my character in the course of half an hour.
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Do you know Young and Conway? - I do not; one of them has worked for me a good while ago, I cannot tell which.
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Were there not two men came to your yard about the prisoner? - Not that I recollect, the prisoner has worked for me four years; he worked very hard, he is a very industrious man; and has earned four or five and twenty shillings a week.
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I am a sawyer. I know the prisoner; I was in the yard when two men came to enquire after Great Stephen, the prisoner goes by the name of Great Stephen in the trade; they came to know where he lived or where he was at work.
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Do you know those two men? - I cannot say I do; when I am at work I make it a rule not to mind who comes in or what is said, but I heard the words that They could make a hundred pounds of him; that was on the Monday before he was taken up. I asked the man they came to, when they were gone, who the man was? He said his name was Young, and that he worked with him.
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That man here? - No. I have known the prisoner from a child; I knew him in the country, he is a very honest hard working man; when he left a master there were others ready to send for him; he has always born the character of an industrious man.
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MARY PALMER
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The prisoner lived in my house two years and a quarter, he is a quiet hard working man; he has never been, during that time, ten nights out till ten o'clock, except of a Saturday when he has been obliged to stay at the pay table.
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MARY MURRELL
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I lived in the house with the prisoner three quarters of a year, he is a very quiet industrious man, I never desire to have a better neighbour.
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WILLIAM FAIRN
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I have known him about twelve months, he is a quiet, harmless, civil man; and I believe altogether as honest; he has worked with me.
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SAMUEL DE FOE
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I have know him better than four years I never heard but that he was an honest industrious hard working man.
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NOT GUILTY
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Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.
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