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were indicted, for
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burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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, about the hour of six in the night, and stealing six quartern loaves of bread, value 3 s. and two twopenny loaves, value 4 d. the property of the said Thomas, in his dwelling-house
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I live at the corner of
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; I had lost bread several times. On Monday morning, the 27th of January, about six o'clock, immediately as the bread was drawn, and brought up into the shop, my wife and I got up; I heard the bar taken down, and the door open; it was opened on the inside; I was called by the watchman; he had taken Talbert, with the bread upon him; it has my mark upon it; it should be a W, but it has one side broke off, and is like an N.
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Counsel for the prisoner. Will you undertake to swear that the bread had not been purchased in your shop? - If it had, the money never came to me; I never sold it.
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Had not your servant sold it? - If he had, he had not remitted the money to me.
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You will not undertake to swear it had not been sold in your shop? - I cannot swear that.
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Court. Where did you see the bread after it was taken away? - In a sack in the watch-house; I went there in consequence of an information.
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Was French in the habit of selling bread for you? - Yes; he carried bread out, and served occasionally in the shop.
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If any body came very early for bread, French being in the shop would have sold it? - Yes.
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I am a watchman. On the 27th of January, about a quarter before six in the morning, I saw the prisoner Talbert walking backwards and forwards before Mr. Wheeler's shop; Mr. Wheeler had lost bread several times, and desired me to watch;
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just as the watchmen had cried the hour of six I saw him go up to the door; I heard somebody on the inside undo the bar, and he lifted up the latch, and went; and I saw French put six quartern loaves, and two two-penny ones, into a bag he had with him; he twisted the bag up, put it across his shoulder, and went across the road.
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Jury. Did you see any money pass at that time? - Not a farthing; he came directly out; I followed him till he came to the corner of Macclesfield-street, then I crossed the way, and told him he must go with me to the watch-house; I left him and the loaves at the watch-house, and went back to Mr. Wheeler's shop; I called the watchman, and then knocked at the door; I knocked three times before he would open it, then French listed up the bar, and opened the door, and I gave the watchman charge of him till I called Mr. Wheeler; Mr. Wheeler came immediately; he desired him to forgive him; he said he had never done such a thing before; we then took him to the watch-house; I have had the bread in my possession ever since.
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What did Wheeler charge him with? - I don't know what Wheeler said.
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Counsel for the prisoner. Had not Talbert time enough, when he went into the shop, to throw down the money for the bread before you came up? - No, not without my seeing him.
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When French asked his master's pardon, you don't know whether it was for having stolen the bread, or having trusted a man his master would not trust? - I cannot say that.
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I am a watchman; the last witness called me, and I went with him to Mr. Wheeler's, and he gave me charge of French.
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Did you hear any thing Mr. Wheeler said to French? - He said he was very glad he was taken; that he had been robbing him for some time; French said, I hope you will forgive me for this time; Wheeler said, do you think I will forgive you, when you have robbed me while I was asleep?
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Counsel for the prisoner. A man may rob his master by taking his property without his knowledge; or by selling his property without his knowledge; and keeping the money; in which of these senses did he charge him with robbing him? - I don't know; that is what he said.
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I am foreman to Mr. Wheeler; I made the bread, and marked it, and drew it out of the oven, on the Monday morning; the bake-house is backwards, under ground, French carried them up into the shop; when I counted them in the shop, there were six quartern, and two two-penny loaves missing.
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The loaves were produced in Court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.
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The prisoners both left their defence to their counsel.
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They called each of them two witnesses, who gave them a good character.
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Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. ROSE.
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[Transportation. See summary.]
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