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that he, together with forty other persons and more, did, unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously, assemble on the
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, to the disturbance of the public peace, and did begin to demolish and pull down the dwelling-house of
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against the form of the statute, &c.
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I keep the sign of the White Lion, a public-house, in White Cross-street.
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Do you know Mr. Murphy's house? - Very well.
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Was you there when the mob attacked his house? - No. The windows were broke when I got there, which was at about seven o'clock in the evening. I saw
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James Gall
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pull out part of the sash frames and throw it out; the mob were breaking the furniture to pieces, and throwing it out, and likewise the inside of the house.
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Did you know Gall before? - Yes; I lodged in the same house with him four years ago.
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How long did you stay? - Not above a quarter of an hour; I stood opposite Mr. Murphy's house, the street is about twelve yards wide.
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Are you sure the prisoner is the man of whom you have been speaking? - I am sure he is the man.
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Was the prisoner taken up upon your information, was you sent for to give information, or did you go by yourself? - I went by myself.
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Cross Examination.
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When did you go? - On the 10th.
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After the proclamation? - Yes.
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Had you heard of the proclamation when you went to give evidence? - There was no money at that time offered, only a proclamation.
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Did you expected any money when you went? - No.
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Do you claim any reward? - No.
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Can you read? - Yes.
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Did you read the proclamation? - Yes.
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How then could you tell the gentlemen there was no reward offered? - I did not read the proclamation, I did not expect any reward.
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What are you? - I keep a public-house.
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You say you did not stay above a quarter of an hour? - No, they were pulling the house to pieces; I went off.
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This man you knew perfectly well before? - Yes.
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Did you see any of his neighbours there? - Yes; one.
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Did you see Mr. Poole? - No.
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Did you see Mr. Read? - No.
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Did you see Mr. Wigmore? - No.
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When was the first time you discovered this? - On Saturday.
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Not before Saturday; how came you to keep it to yourself till Wednesday? - I did not know where he lived.
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Did not you know where to find him? - No.
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Did not you know where he lodged? - No, not till Saturday; I then saw him go into an house and thought he lodged there. I went to Captain
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, and we took him directly.
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Did you mention his name to any body before Saturday? - No; if he had been out of the way I should not have given any information against him I believe.
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Counsel for the crown. Did you mention that you had seen the prisoner at the bar to any of your acquaintance before Saturday? - No.
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Jury. You say if he had gone out of the way you did not want to give yourself any trouble about him? - No.
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(The counsel for the crown offered evidence to prove the demolition of the house. But the counsel for the prisoner admitted it.)
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Prisoner. I leave my defence to my counsel.
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For the prisoner.
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I am a shoemaker; I live in Grub-street; the prisoner is a journeyman shoemaker; I have known him ever since he has lodged where he did when he was taken up; he lodged there about three years.
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Did Dempsey know he lodged there? - I believe he did.
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Was you at Mr. Murphy's house? - Yes, I was there from six o'clock till the whole of it was down. I stood close to the house.
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Did you see any body pull down the window frames? - Yes; several.
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Did you see the prisoner there? - No.
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If he had been pulling down the window frames must not you have seen him? - I must have seen him, I was there all the time.
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If he had been active in beating out the window frames must you not have seen him? - I certainly must, I know him so well.
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Counsel for the crown. Will you swear the prisoner did not beat out the window frames? - I will not swear that; I swear I did not see him.
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You will not swear he did not pull out the frames? - He was not there.
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Will you swear he was not there? - I did not see him there.
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sworn.
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I am an embosser.
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Was you at Mr. Murphy's house, at the time it was demolished? - I went there a little after six and staid till near eight.
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Did you see the persons pulling down the window frames? - I saw several people demolishing the house, but I did not see the prisoner. I have known him twelve months.
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If he had been busily employed in pulling out the window-frames must you not have seen him? - I must have seen him; I was there opposite the house all the while; I did not see him there.
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I am a master shoe-maker. I have known the prisoner eleven or twelve years. He served his apprenticeship with me; I have known him up to this time; he is an honest and sober a lad as ever was in any man's house.
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I am a journeyman shoemaker, and live at No. 5, in Grub-street. Gall lodged and boarded with me near three years.
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Do you recollect the night Mr. Murphy's house was pulled down? - Yes, it was on the Wednesday, the prisoner was at work that day and every day of the week.
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Do you recollect how long he worked that day? - Not particularly.
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Do you know Dempsey? - I have seen him several times, but never till this affair; I always found the prisoner an honest, sober, quiet, harmless young fellow; he is a very regular man, and supports his poor mother; he sends her half a guinea at a time.
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Cross Examination.
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You are not positive what time the prisoner went out that evening? - I did not take particular notice; I believe he went home between nine and ten, or just after nine o'clock.
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- MORRISON sworn.
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I have known the prisoner upwards of a twelve-month. He is a very sober careful man; he worked very hard.
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I am a master shoe-maker. I have known the prisoner about four years; he is a just honest young fellow; he worked for me, and did my business extremely well.
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I am a shoe-maker. I have known the prisoner between two and three years he; is a sober, honest, industrious young fellow.
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I am a stone-mason. I have known the prisoner about four years; he has got an exceeding good character from his behaviour, which has been more like a man of forty or fifty years of age than a youth.
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Tried by the First Middlesex Jury before Mr. Justice ASHHURST.
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