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27th October 1790

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716. EDWARD LOWE proceedingsdefend and WILLIAM JOBBINS proceedingsdefend This name instance is in set 1300. were indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 6th day of April last, several articles of linen, value 3 l. the property of William Tolley proceedingsvictim .

ELEANOR TOLLEY < no role > sworn.

I am wife of William Tolley < no role > ; I live in Vineyard-Gardens, Cold-Bath-Fields ; on the 6th of April I missed the things in the indictment; they were hanging up to dry, about four; at eight I went to take them in; I had seen them there ten minutes before; the articles were some of them gone; the things were hung upon lines, which were taken away also; the garden was inclosed with pales; my house is a timber house.

JAMES FLINDALL < no role > sworn.

I was convicted in May sessions of felony; I have since obtained his Majesty's pardon.

(The pardon acknowledged, having been read before.

You have been for some time acquainted with the two prisoners? - Yes.

You have been engaged with them in acts of several robberies and felonies? - Yes.

Among the rest, did you, in company with them, or either of them, steal any linen? - Yes; I took them from a laundery, nearly opposite the Vineyard publick-house, Vineyard-Garden, Cold-bath-fields.

Was it dry or wet? - Wet.

Where was it, when you took it? - Hanging on some lines in the garden, which was fenced with high wooden pales, boarded round, nine or ten feet high; Edward Lowe < no role > got over the top of the pales, by my assistance, and opened the door of the garden; he let me in, and me and Lowe cut the lines down; and Jobbins, and Lowe and me carried parcels to a saw-pit, till we had almost cleared the garden; the things was tied up in a sheet, which was part of the property; we relieved each other, and carried them to the corner of Leather-lane; we then left them in the care of Jobbins, while Lowe went to Holborn, and fetched a coach; the things in the street were put into the coach; the two prisoners got into the coach, and I rode on the box; the coach was ordered to be drove to the end of Houndsditch, opposite Bishopsgate-church; then I got off the box, and went to Mrs. Samuel's, in Still-alley, and told her we had some things in a coach at the end of Houndsditch; she came along with me to the coach, and desired me to follow her with the coach; I got up again, and the coach went to the end of Bishopsgate-street, to a court; and the linen was taken out, and carried by me into a Jewess's house; Jobbins went with me; Lowe stood at the door: we got there a little after ten o'clock; the property was untied, and looked over by Mrs. Samuel, and the Jew who belongs to the house; and at length she bought them; she gave fifteen shillings that night, and two shillings the next day.

Mr. Knowlys, Prisoner's Counsel. You are the same man that was examined on Saturday? - Yes.

You then told us, I believe, that besides having burnt and attempted to burn houses, you have for two years been a thief? - Yes.

How long have you known Samuel and his wife? - Since last April.

Were they the persons to whom you generally conveyed your plunder, to dispose of? - Yes.

Have you any doubt that they knew perfectly well how these goods were come at? - I cannot say what they thought; I suppose they must think so.

To whose house did you convey those things? - They were strangers to me.

Did you never hear their names? - Not to my recollection.

Court. Were there more than one person, besides Mrs. Samuel? - There was a Jew man and his wife, who was in bed.

When you took your plunder to Samuel's, who took it in, him or his wife? - Sometimes one, and sometimes the other.

ELIZABETH SAMUEL < no role > sworn.

I know the prisoners, and Flindall; I bought some wet linen of them one Friday evening; they were wet; it is a good whileago; I do not recollect the time: one Friday evening, before I was going to bed, somebody knocked at my door; and I asked who was there? he answered, Flindall; I opened the door; Flindall came in, and said, I have something for you; and I went with him to Bishopsgate-street; there was a coach by Bishopsgate-church, and Flindall got on the coach-box, and drove to a court in Bishopsgate-street; I desired him to let the coach follow me there; the prisoners Lowe and Jobbins were then in the coach; Flindall got off the box, and brought the things into a house in the court, one of our folks's houses, called Moses; Jobbins and Lowe were there; Jobbins came in, and Lowe staid without; the articles were sheets and petticoats, towels, table-cloths, and several other articles of linen; they were wet; I bought them for fifteen shillings; and I believe I gave them two shillings the next morning; the things were dried and sold, except a few old towels and a bit of cloth, which I delivered up to John Hardy < no role > ; they never were out of my custody till then, excepting that a basket cloth had been pawned, wrapping up a coat of my husband's; Hardy went to the pawnbroker's, and redeemed it; I am very sure it is one of the things I bought of the prisoners.

You have occasionally bought several things not honestly come by? - Yes, for seven or eight months.

Mr. Lawes. I think you say, on Friday evening, when somebody knocked at your door, the answer was, Flindall? - Yes.

Now, from thence I collect, that you knew him very well before? - Yes.

How long had you known him before? - I cannot recollect; no great while before.

How often had you dealt with him before? - I have bought things of him before.

Have you not, upon your oath, bought goods frequently of him before? - I have, but not frequently.

Now, you are serious in that answer, are you? - If he had any thing, I bought it.

Whenever you did buy things of him, did not you know they were dishonestly come by? - Yes, Sir, I must know that they were not come honestly by.

What led you to this person of the name of Moses? - Because it was a light night; I was afraid of carrying them to my own place, and therefore I carried them to that place.

What is his real name? - His name is Moses; that is all I know of him.

Moses what? - I do not know.

How long have you known him? - About a twelvemonth; he lives in an alley, but I do not know the name of it; I know the way to it; it is an alley in Bishopsgate-street.

Is there any number on the houses? - I never looked for the number.

Had he lived there all the time you knew him? - I knew him by crying old clothes about the streets; and he is a dealer; that is the way I knew him.

Was he not the same sort of dealer that you and your husband were? - No.

JOHN HARVEY < no role > sworn.

Mr. Garrow. You are a constable? - Yes: these things I received from Mrs. Samuel, at her house.

That night you went to the pawnbroker's for one of the articles? - No, I did not: Lucy went there; this is the cloth I had from Lucy.

- TOLLEY sworn.

(Deposed to the basket cloth by a hole in the middle.) These two towels are all my property; they were stolen from my garden.

ANN CRAFT < no role > sworn.

I was servant to Mrs. Tolley at the time she lost her linen; these are my mistress's property.

Prisoner Lowe. I assure you I was not there. When that basket cloth was first examined before Alderman Skinner, there was no hole in the cloth, and but two towels; and Mrs. Tolley said they belonged to another gentlewoman; I never saw the things before I saw them at Alderman Skinner's.

Prisoner Jobbins. I wish to leave it to my counsel.

The prisoners counsel referred to the character before given by the witnesses for the prisoners, on the trial for arson.

EDWARD LOWE WILLIAM JOBBINS < no role >

GUILTY .

Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.




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